Ease of death/PKill

I think the solution would be rather simple. Limit the amount of clones possible, remove the name clone from whats going on, and call it something stupid like an insurance plan + Bacta healing, let people remember every single thing they saw as if they’d never died, put the place to do said "cloning" all over the place, no negative stats or force removals or level reductions, ect. Just limits on the times they can clone, and limits on why they’d want to clone such as the point reduction bit. Seems like a massive easy mode but hey, its whats needed to be blunt. I hate the thought of all of it but I think thats about the only way you’re gonna spice things up and get people out and about.

Here’s my two credits.

It is hard enough to kill someone who is smart and good at the game. Really nigh unto impossible, especially if they have force. This is a permanent death mud and death should always be around the corner – You are only dying if someone has a complete justification to perm you, anyway.

Please, please, for the love of god, if cloning becomes more standard as a "solution", make it have a high odds of failure (50% or more) and only let people clone once. I really will flip the fuck out if we have another mandalorian sith lord that re-clones fifty times. It’s ridiculous, unrealistic, doesn’t benefit the game at all, and all it does is alienate and infuriate players. I understand it sucks to lose your character, but if the penalties for dying are lowered so much, then it won’t matter whatsoever. I play here because it MATTERS when you lose. It gives you motivation to win.

I think things are completely fine the way they are. If you don’t like dying, you need to figure out what you’re doing wrong because you are definitely making mistakes. This is a mud whose storyline revolves around playerkill and permanent death is a staple.

Oh, and by the way? I -will- be waiting on Kamino to jump your sucker ass if I permed you once. You fucked up, you chose me as your enemy, and if I perm you once 99% odds are you are going to immediately come back and try to PK me in return. If it’s in game, there’s a way for me to get there. So really..

The only solution for this I can see is, as previously suggested, to have clones start with no levels and no stats. I would appreciate this – if you have to go back out into the game and level up again, you really are going to have an incentive NOT to immediately try and pkill the guy who tagged you. Clones really shouldn’t be waking up and smashing whoever killed them.

There’s a ton of forcers out there and there will be more next era with 10k bought force.

Yeah, There definately needs to be a time limit like the 24 hours stated earlier. You shouldnt die and wake up and instantly be back in the fight. And part of the fun of being a clone is clone rp. While we are talking about death, murder perm needs to be fixed where it doesnt hospitalize people.

Hiro, we’ve tried doing things that way for a long time and it isn’t working as well as it should be. Sure, there’re the ‘regulars’ when it comes to PK, but combat with just the regulars is boring. This is a change for all of the dozens of helpless Stormtroopers who have been mooshed this TL. Some of us are stubborn douchebags who nerd-rage when we get killed and spend years mastering the system so we can survive and win in PK, but the average player needs some help getting there.

And besides, we saw what happens when there’s a failure rate for cloning. The Mando Forcer survives and everyone around him has failed clones.

That is a ridiculous argument, Avanga. Clones need a high failure rate and definitely need to be limited to one per character ever, or we ARE going to see that same fucking situation happen again.

It takes less time to gear and level a combat character than any other character type in the game. Better and more accessible clones does not benefit a combat main newbie. It benefits people who are already nigh invincible.

Newbies DO need help, that is why they shouldn’t be faced with a wall of force that is literally unstoppable and can’t even be killed successfully if they get lucky.

Alright. Here’s the thing.

We need to decide what we want. Do we want big, epic battles spanning the whole TL? Or do we want smaller 1v1 skirmishes intermittently whenever one side is done leveling their killing machine player? Because that’s what it comes down to. Look at the MUD right now. One clan has NO ground forces because they’ve all been killed and nobody on that side wants to level just to be crushed again. There is no conflict on the ground. And this happens EVERY TL. The obvious fix is to make it so people don’t die so easily.

And yeah, you’re right. Leveling combat is easy. But there’s a lot more than that. Carapace, having someone craft you armor and weapons, getting the appropriate cybernetics, leveling the other classes you might be using in conjunction with your combat. And then there’s the whole ‘RP’ thing.

And concerning the whole… cloning success rate, whether the individual in question legitimately managed to have their clone succeed or not, I don’t care – I’d prefer a level playing field to one where I can’t see what the other side may or may not be doing behind the scenes. 100%, everyone is guaranteed it, not just the imm who may or may not be tipping the scales in the name of balance or fun or boredom or whatever.