Ease of death/PKill

My main issue with this is that there’s no negative to cloning. I don’t see a single reason why everyone in game shouldn’t be cloned if this is the route we’re going. Also, will the ability to clone be opened up for the public, or will it continue to be how its done in the past?

The idea is that we WANT people to be cloned so that they’ll take more chances with their characters, get more involved and maybe start something exciting for once. We don’t want to make cloning something that turns people off, because they’ll just stick to what they’ve been doing – hiding away and only attacking when they KNOW they’ll win.

Price, inconvenience.

How are Anna’s suggestions, aside from the slow recovery (I like that idea) and the no camping (I like that too) any different than the current system?

All your gear is fucked even if you get restored, you’re already [i:kr6zvxhc]supposedly[/i:kr6zvxhc] limited to two clones.

If cloning actually worked, people would actually do stuff. When I was young and naive and thought my clone would work, I did all kinds of fun stuff. And then my first clone got camp-killed and every cloned character I had after that had a clone failure, now I don’t even bother. It’s much nicer in my phome. Why waste an afternoon and a couple mil on something with a 5% (if that) chance of working.

Make it so that forcers cannot carry their force onto their clones.

A few ideas to make death easier on players.

Perhaps make levels cheaper with points. I could spend 2k easy but I wont get all that many levels and I still have to do some major grinding. Not to mention I miss out on a lot of potential stat min maxing.
In before someone trolls me for min/maxing. Some people like to play that way and the random gains were designed around that anyway.
Maybe a 300 point cost option to set all your stats to current race cap. Instead of the 20 point allowance that wont go to race cap anyway but 2 off.

Speed up leveling. We need a balance but the less time we have to spend leveling up the easier it is on us to loose a char. This goes back to people who say spend points. Yes I pay 3k deposit, 2k cost, 2k points, do something stupid even at my fault. Lost 7k points. Well fuck me running. That’s gonna piss me off not make it easier.

Quests were a step in the right direction. We need more options. I suggest expanding on leadership. They offer a lot of experience now but its wonkey in most classes. IE diagnose is faster for exp then a sink built in for training leader. Science wont give exp unless leader gets a skill up. Once a science has trained all skills no more teaching.

Get rid of the damn exp sink. Its counter productive it says SCREW YOU this should take a long time. Stop power leveling. Okay that’s fine in most cases but that pushes the char value higher and doesn’t make it easier to rush into pk, instead makes me want to hide more.

Forcers require circulation. There are and have been ones that just strut around for the entire era because A) they perm everyone people can’t stand up against them. After a ganksquad finally manages to off the guy, the last thing we want is them to come back, fully capable and going: "Hi guys, guess I’m dominating again LOLOLOL."

N.F.F.C – No Force For Clones.

Have each clone reawakening subtract a substantial amount of their force. Dilution or something. A level 100 forcer gets killed, their clone is level 60. The clone gets killed, the next one wakes up level 30.

Troll: It’s a good idea to keep the force moving, but I feel that the ends don’t justify the means. The only clones that we really want force removed from are the really powerful PKing forcers. If you remove force from the other guys, then you potentially limit one side’s ability to take padawan/apprentices and train them to their full capacity. This will result in msets and other IMM-intervention.

No, if they get a clone, they get their force at 100%.

Kora, you make a good point. Your point is in fact the ONLY reason that I’ve hated cloning all this time. Some people would RP thoughts as though they were a blank slate, some people would RP thoughts from the point of cloning, and others wouldn’t experience any loss of thoughts. These thoughts would then be used as PK justification, and the victim has a solid defense. It amounts to an administrative nightmare to track and control and the staff can’t continue to offer this level of support. We’d need to simplify it and make some concessions for the sake of game mechanics.

To address that problem, I would be willing to change cloning to ‘hospitalization’. Let’s say that the player buys an ‘insurance policy (ie: formerly clone)’ that guarantees them that in the event of an accident, they will be rescued and healed. It’s ambiguous so if you’re killed in a space battle, then you wake up and /you/ decide how you came to survive. (I mean, we’re explaining our survival as it is when we get restored after of week of death). You can even RP that you were on a clone if you want. You get to choose, but ICly it accommodates the players who don’t want to back track their RP)

Corey, I hear you on the downside to cloning. If a player wakes up on a clone and applies for a restore, then their original will be lost. I want to get away from players losing time while they go through the RP process. I feel very strongly that a few extra chances to play your character is going to give people a safety net so they can get out there and take some chances. If they know that their clone is going to suck, they won’t take those chances. I think that the idea of a 24 hour ‘rest’ time after being killed is a good solution to the problem of people cloning, getting killed, and then rejoining a fight 10 minutes after dying. (which nullifies the permer’s actions of getting you out of the way in the first place)

Ideally, though, I’d like to make dying such a non issue that players don’t have a need to go through the restore process nearly as often as they are currently. That means that we need to find the right balance of extra lives (clones) and ability to perm others. We’re still a ways off on that.