Things That Are Bullshit

There are a few things that are pretty annoying.

Engineering clans and ship prints:
You have to be in the same clan to lay ship prints, and if you’re in an engy company and want to lay prints for a government clan, you have to join the government clan temporarily to lay the prints. If this wasn’t stupid enough on it’s own, if you have alts in the engy clan also you can’t join the government clan to lay the prints.

Prints need to be open and allowed to be laid by anybody. Blueprints are blueprints, and if I pick them off a corpse I should be able to lay them. I understand that it’s a security thing, but it’s nearly impossible to get into any clanbase, IN to that room and use buy to get them anyway. If you acquired them, chances are it was legally by using steal/picking them off a corpse/buying them from a clan. Therefore, making prints clan-only doesn’t make sense.

Second Rant:
OOC limit break needs to go. I understand that the point is to make people RP more and chat less, but it honestly doesn’t work and just ends up being a pain in the ass more than a tool to make people roleplay more. Get rid of it.

Limitbreak leads to emote osay. Lack of limit break leads to hour long osay chatrooms. It’s sort of a tradeoff. The other option for clans with prints is for an engineer in the clan already to lay the print in the shipyard of the engineering company, but this requires that people level up alts in their own clan and make them available.

Skiia has a point about the prints. That was a pain in the ass last TL as well. Would be nice to buy prints for a shitty print to build a ship from. That was a pain that you HAVE to join an engineering company to increase build ship, and tune ship, etc.

Some of the prints are considerd clan eq this is to prevent people from breaking into bases at 2am and buying a bunch of hammerheads. Its game breaking and annoying.

You know, one thing that could be cool is if it was VERY difficult for outsiders to get too, but not impossible. And even if you got in you couldn’t carry out many more than 2 or something. It’d make for things like corporate espionage.

Any spyapp that was approved by the imms was consensual and they know what a person with a spyapp can do. If they overstep their bounds, they’ll be punished accordingly. Seriously, man. Stop running threads into the ground by arguing points for no reason. <!– s:roll: –><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_rolleyes.gif" alt=":roll:" title="Rolling Eyes" /><!– s:roll: –>

He is saying that you can apply for a spyapp for the sole purpose of getting blueprints(Corporate Espionage as he put it). He is correct in that his is a possibility, and that there are dozens of different kinds of spyapps depending on what you’re looking to have done. Not sure why you are getting onto him about it, as this is one of the few posts of RJ’s I read and didn’t feel the desire to delete it.

Yeah, but my point is that you guys would see the spyapp and approve it for that, so if the spyapp is to steal blueprints and the imms approve it, what’s the problem? You wouldn’t do anything intentionally game-breaking… right? &gt;_&gt;

Its a moot point as the finished ship doesn’t come out as the person who layed its, but as the clan that owns the print to begin with. Sure you could turn it into a pirateship but the host clan is still going to be able to see a new ship of theirs in an unknown/uncharted location. This in itself will cause problems with clan max cappies rules so its better off just being how it is currently. If you want that ship and you manage to steal a print and don’t want the original clan to know, speak with an imm about the laying of the frame and it’ll get sorted. Considering a spyapp should already be involved i can’t see the intervention by an imm as largely problematic.

Bad idea imo, might only be useful if fighters prints were able to be sold. Being you probably wouldn’t need a mega factory and in theory 20+ people to make it(realistic for a Freighter and larger).

Edit: This is my welcome back post, be prepared for more dastardly posts in the near future, bad ideas be warned! <!– s:twisted: –><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_twisted.gif" alt=":twisted:" title="Twisted Evil" /><!– s:twisted: –>

The problem is, immortals should [i:t8cxhlx3]not[/i:t8cxhlx3] be a vital cog in [b:t8cxhlx3][u:t8cxhlx3]any[/u:t8cxhlx3][/b:t8cxhlx3] system without which it grinds to a halt.

Sadly the mud is built on mechanics and not roleplay, there’s got to be some sort of intervention whether you like it or not. You’re spitting chips over a system that isn’t even broken, just biased to not incur asshatery by people.