Rethinking Capitalrules

If a clan is wiped out the surviving members (if smart but I dunno most will be QQing the Imms) should make a different organization that goes on with the old organization. The begining of Era 4 was a good example. The Imperial Remnants tried to rebuild the Empire (failed but I think it had more to do with the players than the imms) And they got wiped out. They eventually joined major clans etc. The Old Republic -> Empire -> Rebel alliance -> New Republic is a good base but like in this era instead of a human run Empire why not a reverse idea where an Alien Empire (Argadzans or Arkanians) exist that wants to do a whole genocidal rampage on the different human races? It solves the problem of repeition but still keeps that similar cycle just different races or names. It keeps something old and at the same time keeping something new and that gives the more traditionalists the room to say I want a Rebel Alliance against the Galactic Argadzan or Arkanian Empire. I am just using the next tl story plot as was given to us as an example. Not that something like this would happen but I feel it would make a lot of players happy. I am not saying change the cycle but introduce a different element like in this example an Alien Empire. Even in cannon the Empire is replaced by "Alien Empires" Yuzhan Vong, the failed attempt of the Yevethans, and the list goes on. But the cycle keeps going just different Empires.

Capital rules are pure awesomness I think. Why? Because on this other mud, the Republic’s fleet was gone over the night because no one in the Republic was on.

But I agree the wars should end sooner if a clan gets their asses kicked.

There needs to be more incentive on keeping planets under clan control, give people a reason to move their ships from orbit.

I think clans would be more active with their ships if they were easier and cheaper to build and thus to replace. Now bear with me, before you start screaming "OMG FLEETS OF TEN THOUSAND SHIPS!!!". Have a maximum number of heavy ships that can be in space from a single clan at any given time. So say you build 20 ships, but can only launch 10. I’d personally be more willing to take risks with those ten knowing that if something happens, it’s not going to be two weeks and 100 million credits to replace them. On the flipside of that, the ships on the ground unlaunched aren’t protected by anything except the clan base’s security, so it would give more incentive for clans to use ground ops against eachother. Sure the 10 ships in orbit of a safesector are safe, but the 20 ships on the ground are up for grabs.

Honestly, I’d have to disagree. Mainly because, if the ships are on the ground of a main planet. What’s the point of protecting the other planets? In my honest opinion, the planets themselves should give benefits if you can hold them long enough. Like in Battlefront or Empire At War, where if you have one planet, you get boosts, but if you lose that planet you lose the boosts. The incentive should be the planets, not the ships. While on that topic, the planets should give a sum of credits to the governing clan that way they -have- the credits to spend on more ships. Taxes. Instead of getting taxes from just cargo running, the taxes should pour into the clan’s bank every IC month or something. Give time even more meaning on LOTJ.

What I mean is, say the Republic owns Corellia. Corellia gives certain resources to the Republic that would help an engineering clan allied with it to build ships faster, or stronger. Like hull, or something. As well as giving a small sum of credits to the Republic every few weeks, that would steadily increase the Clan’s bank. Right now, all the money Clans get are either donated by their members. Or gained through small cargo taxes or sale taxes.. And not many planets have a pawnshop that gives more to those credits. Nor does every planet become the same cargo route as everyone elses, so they get cut off from that as well.

In retrospect, Planets would be more useful to a clan if they gave benefits to the clan itself, the way things work now. The planets are only useful to the clan by means of saying "All ur plants are belun 2 us!" as well as being able to enforce the clan’s laws on said planets and the governmental buildings that every planet has.

So I propose, that instead of talking about how the clans should fall or rise. We should consider the value of how the planets should be considered strategic points, instead of "Oh I took this planet ’cause I was bored one night and we had the whole navy on." I’m sure it’s been said before either in this thread, or in another thread. Also, adding to the discussion of clans faltering for lack of planets and ending wars sooner. If you’re dropped down to one planet, with only a fuckload of ships, you should fall into debt. Which slowly decreases your funds. As a counter balance to having a planet that increases income. Certain planets would have certain benefits, some benefits could be like I stated. Boosts to the clan, and allied clans. Strategic Value. And possibly even increased income. It would give wind to adding more planets into the game at a time, as well as giving them use.

That’s my two cents. Hate. Like. Whatever. That’s how I think things should be done.

Edit: Adding onto my previous statement about going into debt, I say the clan if it drops below a certain level of money(As debts usually incure), then that clan ceases to exist. Until another incarnation of it appears. Another thing, we may have PCs, but we also have NPCs/vNPCs that help run the clan ICly too. So they would get income like everyone else, as well as work on the ships and stuff too. So the debt would arise from upkeep, basicly. If you lack incoming credits, then your money will start to dwindle.

The planets used to give a substantial amount of credits to the clan that controlled them under Orion’s planetary AI thingy, which is now inexplicably completely broken in every single way.

I agree with the planets providing more benefits, even if its only more credits pouring in.

Rijarin was actually very active before and after Giatre got captured and did stuff.