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February 4, 2009 at 6:07 pm #975
No really. Who uses unarmed combat anymore? I think that the idea of upping unarmed with possible new attacks (only used when unarmed) would be a good idea, for engineers and others who care to defend themselves, but can’t get to level 45 combat.
Maybe only one or two of the attacks out of a list of a few could be trained (kinda like feats) or used, maybe a sweeping kick, drop kick, punch, elbow, bite, things like that.
IRL Situation:
I would not think Obama is a killer by far. But in a hand to hand fight, well.. okay someone else, how about Jonathan Stamos, i don’t think he’d ever use a gun, he’d never have Blaster Mastery. But, in a hand to hand fight, he would kill me. And What if he was a hand to hand master? Wouldn’t he be able to disarm we while he is not wielding anything? I think that unarmed mastery should be helped by new skills or more attention so that people use it more, so it’s a viable option in a time of need. Not just for arena fights.
OH How about this for another example: An engineer, a huge mechanic, doesn’t do combat, can handle himself in a fight, but can’t use weapons for anything. He’d be a formidable opponent if he got robbed, even if he didn’t have a gun. Well, unless the gun was just right as it face… anyway, it’s just a thought.
anyone like unarmed fighting? thoughts?
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February 6, 2009 at 10:40 pm #9095"Emmeline":302mngml wrote:No really. Who uses unarmed combat anymore? I think that the idea of upping unarmed with possible new attacks (only used when unarmed) would be a good idea, for engineers and others who care to defend themselves, but can’t get to level 45 combat.
Maybe only one or two of the attacks out of a list of a few could be trained (kinda like feats) or used, maybe a sweeping kick, drop kick, punch, elbow, bite, things like that.
IRL Situation:
I would not think Obama is a killer by far. But in a hand to hand fight, well.. okay someone else, how about Jonathan Stamos, i don’t think he’d ever use a gun, he’d never have Blaster Mastery. But, in a hand to hand fight, he would kill me. And What if he was a hand to hand master? Wouldn’t he be able to disarm we while he is not wielding anything? I think that unarmed mastery should be helped by new skills or more attention so that people use it more, so it’s a viable option in a time of need. Not just for arena fights.
OH How about this for another example: An engineer, a huge mechanic, doesn’t do combat, can handle himself in a fight, but can’t use weapons for anything. He’d be a formidable opponent if he got robbed, even if he didn’t have a gun. Well, unless the gun was just right as it face… anyway, it’s just a thought.
anyone like unarmed fighting? thoughts?[/quote:302mngml]
I’ve always thought that unarmed combat should have far more variance than it does. Honestly, the current system is somewhere between horrible and more horriblerer. Since when would a Jawa and a Wookiee do the same amount of unarmed damage (assuming level 1 everything)?!
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February 7, 2009 at 3:24 pm #9099"RenegadeJedi":wdfhikza wrote:"Emmeline":wdfhikza wrote:No really. Who uses unarmed combat anymore? I think that the idea of upping unarmed with possible new attacks (only used when unarmed) would be a good idea, for engineers and others who care to defend themselves, but can’t get to level 45 combat.
Maybe only one or two of the attacks out of a list of a few could be trained (kinda like feats) or used, maybe a sweeping kick, drop kick, punch, elbow, bite, things like that.
IRL Situation:
I would not think Obama is a killer by far. But in a hand to hand fight, well.. okay someone else, how about Jonathan Stamos, i don’t think he’d ever use a gun, he’d never have Blaster Mastery. But, in a hand to hand fight, he would kill me. And What if he was a hand to hand master? Wouldn’t he be able to disarm we while he is not wielding anything? I think that unarmed mastery should be helped by new skills or more attention so that people use it more, so it’s a viable option in a time of need. Not just for arena fights.
OH How about this for another example: An engineer, a huge mechanic, doesn’t do combat, can handle himself in a fight, but can’t use weapons for anything. He’d be a formidable opponent if he got robbed, even if he didn’t have a gun. Well, unless the gun was just right as it face… anyway, it’s just a thought.
anyone like unarmed fighting? thoughts?[/quote:wdfhikza]
I’ve always thought that unarmed combat should have far more variance than it does. Honestly, the current system is somewhere between horrible and more horriblerer. Since when would a Jawa and a Wookiee do the same amount of unarmed damage (assuming level 1 everything)?![/quote:wdfhikza]I’m tempted to agree on this, it would be a good idea to see variation based on racial strength/size. Of course, some tool will soon pop up and say "omg echani amzing at unarmed" and likely try to overpower the annoying demented-judo-albino’s further. But ignoring that, thumbs up. Racial specific multipliers, and even specific messages during combat would be great.
[b:wdfhikza]Edit:[/b:wdfhikza] I’ve also suggested ‘advanced disarm’ as a feat before, that’d allow you to disarm someone whilst unarmed. No response back on it from code-land.
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February 7, 2009 at 4:41 pm #9100"Ralen":3k3be8dn wrote:"RenegadeJedi":3k3be8dn wrote:"Emmeline":3k3be8dn wrote:No really. Who uses unarmed combat anymore? I think that the idea of upping unarmed with possible new attacks (only used when unarmed) would be a good idea, for engineers and others who care to defend themselves, but can’t get to level 45 combat.
Maybe only one or two of the attacks out of a list of a few could be trained (kinda like feats) or used, maybe a sweeping kick, drop kick, punch, elbow, bite, things like that.
IRL Situation:
I would not think Obama is a killer by far. But in a hand to hand fight, well.. okay someone else, how about Jonathan Stamos, i don’t think he’d ever use a gun, he’d never have Blaster Mastery. But, in a hand to hand fight, he would kill me. And What if he was a hand to hand master? Wouldn’t he be able to disarm we while he is not wielding anything? I think that unarmed mastery should be helped by new skills or more attention so that people use it more, so it’s a viable option in a time of need. Not just for arena fights.
OH How about this for another example: An engineer, a huge mechanic, doesn’t do combat, can handle himself in a fight, but can’t use weapons for anything. He’d be a formidable opponent if he got robbed, even if he didn’t have a gun. Well, unless the gun was just right as it face… anyway, it’s just a thought.
anyone like unarmed fighting? thoughts?[/quote:3k3be8dn]
I’ve always thought that unarmed combat should have far more variance than it does. Honestly, the current system is somewhere between horrible and more horriblerer. Since when would a Jawa and a Wookiee do the same amount of unarmed damage (assuming level 1 everything)?![/quote:3k3be8dn]I’m tempted to agree on this, it would be a good idea to see variation based on racial strength/size. Of course, some tool will soon pop up and say "omg echani amzing at unarmed" and likely try to overpower the annoying demented-judo-albino’s further. But ignoring that, thumbs up. Racial specific multipliers, and even specific messages during combat would be great.
[b:3k3be8dn]Edit:[/b:3k3be8dn] I’ve also suggested ‘advanced disarm’ as a feat before, that’d allow you to disarm someone whilst unarmed. No response back on it from code-land.[/quote:3k3be8dn]
If any Echani whore pops up and tries that argument, they lose. Echani were NOT born knowing any special martial arts. They learned it, just like Wookiees and Defels. If SPECIFIC Martial Arts were added, perhaps allow them access to a racial-specific one, but all the other races with specific arts should get their own, too. Then you have the non-racial ones, i.e. Teras Kasi.
P.S. The Echani arts were striking, not wrassling/throwing like Judo. The Defel and Wookiee arts, though, seem to be more wrestling-based… I remember one of the Defel bodyguards (I forget which) teaching Chewbacca a new joint lock, and he was all like "lulz omg."
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February 8, 2009 at 5:32 am #9103
I’d like to see unarmed matter, but I think you guys have got it backwards. Generally speaking, guns are the easy way out. It takes a lot of training to turn your body into a weapon.
Plus, from a purely balance perspective, do you really want any joe-blow level 40+ combat to be dangerous while unarmed? It’d make jailing people HELL.
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February 9, 2009 at 10:38 pm #9121
True, but unarmed mastery is like 120 or something, you wouldn’t be some Joe Schmoe. But that’s why they make stun setting, blackjack, and snipe. Have to get more thoughtful than just "get the best gear in game, murder (person), (possibly flurry), wait til’ dead or stunned."
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