Sneak

Alright, so you’re in a business meeting and people come in late and you don’t notice their arrival because they SNEAK!
Lame, no? Well, I think it is.

Over 50% of the pbase sneaks in public situations, which really doesn’t make sense. Standing crouched, moving silently etc. is careful job, you simply can’t move like that unless you’re solid snake or jack bauer, which you’re not so shut up. I hereby propose that sneak will be changed so that it will drain movement. This would prevent people from everyone being Aragorns and make the game more balanced.

MAKE SNEAK DRAIN MOV!

HELL yes.

Adding ‘$n is sneaking around’ actiontag for the sneak skill was a step in the right direction, and this takes it even further. Absolutely. Yes! Please!

Agreed on moth counts. Make it drain movent change silent sneak to not drain movment. Also add in a lag like the opposit of sprint and then shove in a silent run feat.

YES! to the movement point idea and to the ‘Stealth’ feat.

I think this is dumb, then again, I think the fact that it says "So-and-so is sneaking around." People can walk quietly, which doesn’t necessarily mean you are ‘sneaking’.

No, but people aren’t using the walk_quiet skill, they are using ‘sneak’.

I’d point out that in most cases, people sneaking around makes a lot of sense. Picture a lot of the Star Wars settings. Most of the places you see are the kinda places you don’t want to be noticed. That being said, not /everyone/ sneaks.

I really don’t see why this needs to be implemented. All it’ll be is a flashlight that drains MV instead of energy. People will be constantly forgetting to turn sneak off. And I still haven’t heard a reasonable suggestion as to why it should do all this to begin with… because people are using it? Oh snap, better get rid of repeaters and public shuttles too. It’s been around for a long time and I don’t much see the reason to change it.

And, for the record, it /really/ isn’t tiring to sneak around iRL. It’s mostly a matter of carefully picking your route and knowing how to step.

Impliment a "walk_quiet" skill then.

Alriiiight, lemme break it down.

This ‘fix’ doesn’t really solve anything for anyone. People will continue to sneak when it matters, and if the only part of it that actually bothers you is the ‘is sneaking’ string when it /doesn’t/ matter, you’re easily upset. This hurt smugglers more than anyone else. Other classes have a much better chance of defending themselves without the ability to sneak, but Smugglers depend on their sometimes low combat and lackluster abilities. They’ve been hurting for a while now and they could use some attention, not a diluted skill set (see escape_binding, pirateship, …detrap?, etc.)

If people sneaking around you bothers you, do something about it ICly. You see someone acting like Sam Fisher, you’re going to call them on it. Raise the level requirement on sneak if you like, or make Smuggling skills require a Master too, but don’t slather on something that’s only going to hurt the Smugglers more than anyone else.

Ehh. I disagree with the whole thing. Sorry, when I walk up to people in public places, often they don’t HEAR me coming at all. Which was what sneak is…In fact, I walked up to a friend in Wal-Mart just today, no effort to sneak…scared the piss outta them cuz they had no idea I was there…where’s my tag in real life? Bah. Whiners.

Just make it impossible to sneak in any armor past class 1 without a feat. This way you can still have your ninjas and people won’t cry about others sneaking around in heavy metal.