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December 21, 2009 at 9:45 pm #1337
When you look in the roster, and you see a majority of it filled with red-starred characters, most of whom have been inactive for quite some time, don’t you wish you could boot them?
Me too!
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December 22, 2009 at 2:54 am #12892
Yeah I posted this in the old forums brainstorm section….Its something I would support 100%
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December 25, 2009 at 2:58 pm #12909
Well let me be a little more specific.
I’ve thought about a couple of things that could be done with this:
1) Allow the ability to outcast someone regardless of online status
2) Allow the ability to outcast only red-starred characters regardless of online status (could be circumvented by abusers who log on once a month for five minutes and then log off in order to avoid getting booted).
3) Code and implement an auto-kick feature that boots someone after a certain period of inactivity (could be circumvented in the same way #2 is).
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December 26, 2009 at 5:24 am #12911
I don’t really see the problem with people flagged as *, a lot of time there’s a valid reason why they may not of been on for awhile. Work, family or vacations. The rules of multiclan/spyapp prevent them from being of any real detrimental value, the only thing i can see in your argument is inflated clan numbers when that isn’t really a problem now with those non-logon people now being removed from clan numbers when their inactivity reaches a certain point.
Had you said they’re being inactive when your intent was to outcast them was a problem i could understand that, being that they may of been a trouble character you cannot seem to catch when online at the same time as you. A lot of people actually enjoy being unclanned, be it they play Hunters or just prefer to talk alot and rp their character how they want without having a clans guidelines to follow or concern themself over. Also you may find that the character in a clan is an engineer/diplo/leader that they’ve only really got as a fall back character should their main die. Booting them out because they don’t use the character isn’t very good grounds and would open them up to being able to retaliate if they wish.I do wonder why outcast isn’t open slather tho, it shouldn’t matter about being online or in the same room, seeing how its only three people that can do it that fairly well limits its usage.
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December 26, 2009 at 6:51 am #12913
Okay, I’m going to try to filter through that piece by piece… incoming Wall of Text:
"SgtFlippy":1lz24jns wrote:I don’t really see the problem with people flagged as *, a lot of time there’s a valid reason why they may not of been on for awhile. Work, family or vacations.[/quote:1lz24jns]While I understand this, it would be nice if a little forewarning was given. While I understand that it cannot always happen, it still would be welcome.
"SgtFlippy":1lz24jns wrote:The rules of multiclan/spyapp prevent them from being of any real detrimental value, the only thing i can see in your argument is inflated clan numbers when that isn’t really a problem now with those non-logon people now being removed from clan numbers when their inactivity reaches a certain point.[/quote:1lz24jns]The rules of multiclan and spyapp prevents one account from having two characters in separate clans if said clans are not allied. So if they are in a clan that is not allied with anyone, then they should not have one in another clan.
"SgtFlippy":1lz24jns wrote:Had you said they’re being inactive when your intent was to outcast them was a problem i could understand that, being that they may of been a trouble character you cannot seem to catch when online at the same time as you.[/quote:1lz24jns]No, this is not about catching a trouble character, but getting rid of deadweight, though I do like that thought.
"SgtFlippy":1lz24jns wrote:A lot of people actually enjoy being unclanned, be it they play Hunters or just prefer to talk alot and rp their character how they want without having a clans guidelines to follow or concern themself over.[/quote:1lz24jns]And if they enjoy being unclanned so much, why bother joining a clan in the first place only to go inactive on that clan for three months or more?
"SgtFlippy":1lz24jns wrote:Also you may find that the character in a clan is an engineer/diplo/leader that they’ve only really got as a fall back character should their main die. Booting them out because they don’t use the character isn’t very good grounds and would open them up to being able to retaliate if they wish.[/quote:1lz24jns]Yes but there are clans out there who do not appreciate deadweight in their clan. If you’re not gonna play actively in these clans, you shouldn’t be bothered to join in the first place… especially if you cannot multiclan.
"SgtFlippy":1lz24jns wrote:I do wonder why outcast isn’t open slather tho, it shouldn’t matter about being online or in the same room, seeing how its only three people that can do it that fairly well limits its usage.[/quote:1lz24jns]Being that Outcast is an empowerment as it is, what you said should already be implemented since its power is already limited in who can use it.
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December 26, 2009 at 6:56 am #12914
tl;dr version of my above post:
Outcast should be able to be used regardless of online status.
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December 26, 2009 at 7:54 am #12915
I agree, but only for the leader. Otherwise I think it is too open to abuse with as many people having the empowerment as they do.
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December 26, 2009 at 9:38 am #12879"Walldo":1vgr7h6u wrote:I agree, but only for the leader. Otherwise I think it is too open to abuse with as many people having the empowerment as they do.[/quote:1vgr7h6u]
TBH, only the Leader and perhaps the First should have the Outcast empowerment to begin with. Giving it to all the division leaders is just stupid imo.
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December 26, 2009 at 11:40 am #12321
I don’t understand how you can call them deadweight when the only thing they’re affecting is roster…
They’re not logging on to farm wages, they’re not actively sprouting crap on clanchan. You seem to be making an arguement over something as minimal a single _leadership_ command. And who knows, they might be super active on their main, when said main passes away you’d prefer not to have some long forgotten engi suddenly pop up and do three times as much work as everyone else in the clan?
I was hinting towards more so having outcast limited to Leader and #1&2, three people who should in all reality be the most active and most prodominant employees/members of the clan. I forget the other commands that are automatically available to these three people but no doubt i’ll be enlightened.
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